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FWB P70 FT
« on: August 19, 2010, 04:34:16 pm »
FWB P70FT

I will treat this thread as an ongoing review, with some photos (need to replace a couple of these) to start with and and ongoing discussion.

Here is a picture of the complete set up. I will do a review of the scope separately (I will show it with the Leupold close focus adaptor on too).



Literally every part of this rifle is adjustable - this ensures that the stock is a perfect fit for the shooter.

The complete butt of the rifle can be lengthened or shortened or twisted by several screws and dials. This solution is also applied to the cheek comb, which can be raised/lowered, twisted, canted or slide backwads/forwards.



This is the same for the butt plate and (additional) butt hook - they can be moved up/down, left/right or twisted each and every way - this will ensure you get perfect eye relief each time - even at 50 mag.

The Trigger



This is a full match trigger (the rifle is derived from the 10m version and adjusted to give 12ftlbs in this country - be careful of imports as soem run at 18-20 ftlbs!!!!).

the trigger is totally adjustable in its position. It is also totaly adjustable on first and second stage, travel and release pressure - in fact it is a work of art to set it up properly - but when it is - wow - it shows.

The only criticism I have (and that is why I have put a piece of electrical tape in front of the blade) is that the first stage adjustment is infront of the blade and can be touched by your finger tip - this can reduce the weight down to such an extent as it may go off - not safe - hence the tape, set it and cover it up!!.

Cocking/Loading



The cocking ears are both sides of the action undeneath the front scope mounts - pushing these forward releases the loading port (but the white loading lever) - insert the pellet direct into the breech and close the loading lever - you are ready to fire.

Compensator



This has come from the 10m version, and really assists with the follow through when shooting. The end of it is the black circle in the end of the breech. It works perfectly - when you release the shot, the rifle does not recoil at all - it is totally 'dead' to shoot and really helps with accuracy.

Muzzle



I have added a UK Neil moderipper to the front of the rifle - this acts as a moderator as well as an air stripper - from tests, I have found this tightens up the groups at long range.

The main air cylinder has an air arms quick fill on it - just makes it easier to keep topped up.

Accuracy

Just how accurate is it??

Keep the barrel clean, weigh and size your pellets, and I have achieved a ragged one hole group (6 shots) at 62 yards on Furnace Mill plinking range. - it is perfectly accurate - as I know FWB straighten each and every barrel - this is a match barrel as standard.

the only let down with the rifle is the user !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shot Count

It is filled upto 200 bar and I find it stops 'on the reg' down to 110 bar - with this you get around 80 good shots. As soon as it comes off the reg, the POI drops about 35mm at 55 yards !!!

The reg works very well - I wll get 5 fps variation with my pellets across the complete fill.

Summary

I am well pleased with the rifle and would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone. It takes at least 9 months of regular shooting to set this up accurately and be able to use it instinctively. It does temperature shift (like all rifles), but I am aware of this and have different click settigns according to the temperatre readings (guage on the scope).

If your shooting technique is up to it, you will get very tight groups at long ranges, providing the wind does not come into effect, and your choice of pellet is well prepared - it is not hugely pellet fussy though.

I have shot over 10,000 pellets through it with out any problems.

They also come in a blue stock too - this is one we used to own



ATB

Phil
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 04:09:02 pm »
I have not used it much since the end of the winter league  rolleye0012

so I thought I would zero it in at the home range before heading to FM at the weekend  happy0065

First shot went straight thru the bull on the 10m target (and they are 0.5mm diameter too) - well happy  party0006
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 04:32:56 pm »
used it at Furnace Mill today. I warmed up on the plinking range and decided to go for the crow at 55 yards - the pellet struck exactly in the middle of the KZ  happy0065 happy0065 happy0065 spot on from the off  happy0065

As I have to shoot FM using the kneeling position (good practice for the winter league, and it stops knackering my back), I managed 24x30 on the course. I generally missed the reducers (including lane 1  rolleye0012), but overall I was well pleased

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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 09:02:42 am »
just did a chrono check, using 8.4 grain pellets

managed 770 to 775 over the test of 10 pellets - that will do for me (damn, one less excuse for missing  rolleye0012)

Also, as I have spent a lot of time over the last 6 months or so shooting 10m/6 yard matches I have set up the match rifle for the standers. I noticed that the FT rifle was not comfortable when shouldered.

I spent half an hour or so, setting up the butt hook length and cant, and also the cheek piece angle, cant and height - (everything is full adjustable) - fits much better now - well happy

I hope to get out to some of the winter leagues matches soon (MFTA), but I am presently shooting 6 comps every fortnight with the pistols and match rifle,  so time is a little limited  mad0217
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 10:37:41 am »
Always wanted one of these, tried one at City air weapons in Birmingham, loved the balance of the rifle.

Regards from a very envious
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 10:49:03 pm »
cheers mate - they do take some adjusting, but when they are right, they are great  th_smiley_two_thumbs_up
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 07:59:25 pm »
The only update is that the rifle has been wiped down with an oily rag. I have not used it since September, but it is in fine condition

maybe one day soon I will use it again
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 08:10:11 am »
Where has the last 14 months gone??????

Potentially I may be heading off to Penkridge on 19th August, so the rifle has now seen the light of day  sign0175 There are no signs of any problems with it being stored and I am looking forward to a mornings shooting - I will report back after the day
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 06:39:16 pm »
 sign0087 big-phil nice rifle mate .I bet you can drop the legs from a crane fly with it yes? sign0173
Just want to be left alone to plink. Been there done it had the teashirt .More guns than cash.

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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 09:01:27 pm »
cheers mate, you certainly can if you do everything right  happy0065
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Re: FWB P70 FT
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 10:19:20 pm »
well I did make it to Penkridge, and what a great day we had there (even dodged a few showers too).

The P70FT did make an appearance on the plinking range initially, then round the course too. Had anything changed over the last 2 1/2 years since it was regularly used ?? answer, nope, not a thing !!!! There was no signs of any problems or blemishes anywhere.

On the plinking range, I ranged a target at 25 yards, and dialled the top turret to suit. No wind - check, and the first pellet was on its way. It struck 1/2 a pellet thickness high - top result, everything is spot on.

Tries several more, and a friend was using it too - he commented on how accurate it was !!!!!

On the course, I missed the short one that was about 2 inches away (only joking, but I can not see these targets, and as the rig is set up for FT, I can not blame the gun). On the rest of the course, I missed on kneeler at 30 yards, by clipping the reset but not hitting hard enough to fully reset the target. Other than that, it was an X each time.

The P70FT has performed faultlessly again, and I am well pleased with it.

If I get to use it regularly again, I will get the barrel only scope mount - this totally eliminates any temperature shift with the rifle (all rifles have this to some degree, it really is about managing the issue). But that is all I would change

Hope it is not another 30 months before I report again  rolleye0012 rolleye0012 rolleye0012
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